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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-5396</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the framing of these pictures, and I TOTALLY agree with you on the third pic. I am in love with the way I framed the third pic, but the fact that its white balance is so far off takes it from awesome picture to crappy picture. Ohh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the framing of these pictures, and I TOTALLY agree with you on the third pic. I am in love with the way I framed the third pic, but the fact that its white balance is so far off takes it from awesome picture to crappy picture. Ohh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston Lee</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-5117</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really love how these are framed. I like the first two and the hard light actually makes me feel like I understand the &quot;story&quot;. The 2nd would be perfect for ad copy.

I would love the third more if I hadn&#039;t seen the white balance in the first two beforehand. I feel like it&#039;s a completely different story because Canon&#039;s auto white balance decided to cool it off. Her legs seem pale/cold even though it&#039;s only really perceived due to the difference in white relative to the first two.

Love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love how these are framed. I like the first two and the hard light actually makes me feel like I understand the &#8220;story&#8221;. The 2nd would be perfect for ad copy.</p>
<p>I would love the third more if I hadn&#8217;t seen the white balance in the first two beforehand. I feel like it&#8217;s a completely different story because Canon&#8217;s auto white balance decided to cool it off. Her legs seem pale/cold even though it&#8217;s only really perceived due to the difference in white relative to the first two.</p>
<p>Love it!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-4873</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Nick, I think you&#039;ve done a great job of finding that balance and we&#039;ll do everything we can to increase exposure for both sites (but the main one primarily so you can sell shirts).  

One of my buddies out here knew the guy that started &quot;ropegun&quot; and got too big too fast and eventually dissolved.  Finding that balance of real grassroots commitment to the sport and inclusion of all who enjoy it is what I like best about Klime and will hopefully lend itself to success.  

  Once we consolidate those pictures, my suggestion would be to have a photo contest for climbers with extra points/consideration given to those that feature a klime product in them.  You&#039;d be surprised given enough time what that might produce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Nick, I think you&#8217;ve done a great job of finding that balance and we&#8217;ll do everything we can to increase exposure for both sites (but the main one primarily so you can sell shirts).  </p>
<p>One of my buddies out here knew the guy that started &#8220;ropegun&#8221; and got too big too fast and eventually dissolved.  Finding that balance of real grassroots commitment to the sport and inclusion of all who enjoy it is what I like best about Klime and will hopefully lend itself to success.  </p>
<p>  Once we consolidate those pictures, my suggestion would be to have a photo contest for climbers with extra points/consideration given to those that feature a klime product in them.  You&#8217;d be surprised given enough time what that might produce.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-4871</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear that. Klime has an email newsletter that I send out once a week. I totally agree with the over-pushing thing, b/c I have opted out of some mailing lists for that reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear that. Klime has an email newsletter that I send out once a week. I totally agree with the over-pushing thing, b/c I have opted out of some mailing lists for that reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-4870</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, once you/we consolidate the FB page to your liking, I&#039;ll take care of the friends page thing.  You just organize the page however you&#039;d like and I&#039;ll help draft and update that brings them there.  Then we can use the mass listings of &quot;friends&quot; that are friends of larger climbing community sites and you&#039;ll see traffic increase.

The challenge is once you get in the hundred of fans to not ostracize them or make them leave the group by updating too often.  This is how I/others with any observational skills worth a damn can distinguish between the subtext of a cool climbing company that actually climbs and sells shirts.....or those that only try to push product and are climbing posers.

I don&#039;t see Klime as the latter but I know I&#039;ve been turned off by a site when I get what feels like spam every other day, updating me on their products.  Usually once per week or bi-weekly gets people excited to see whats up.  Lastly making sure it links right to your website/ordering page is crucial because what is all this without revenue....and flappers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, once you/we consolidate the FB page to your liking, I&#8217;ll take care of the friends page thing.  You just organize the page however you&#8217;d like and I&#8217;ll help draft and update that brings them there.  Then we can use the mass listings of &#8220;friends&#8221; that are friends of larger climbing community sites and you&#8217;ll see traffic increase.</p>
<p>The challenge is once you get in the hundred of fans to not ostracize them or make them leave the group by updating too often.  This is how I/others with any observational skills worth a damn can distinguish between the subtext of a cool climbing company that actually climbs and sells shirts&#8230;..or those that only try to push product and are climbing posers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see Klime as the latter but I know I&#8217;ve been turned off by a site when I get what feels like spam every other day, updating me on their products.  Usually once per week or bi-weekly gets people excited to see whats up.  Lastly making sure it links right to your website/ordering page is crucial because what is all this without revenue&#8230;.and flappers?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-4869</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They would, but those ads gets pricey quick, so it is kind of like paying to have people sign up, when I think there has got to be grips of ways to do it otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They would, but those ads gets pricey quick, so it is kind of like paying to have people sign up, when I think there has got to be grips of ways to do it otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-4868</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww... that sucks for the facebook account thing, but I guess it makes sense.

Maybe ads pointing to the facebook group would help boost your fans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww&#8230; that sucks for the facebook account thing, but I guess it makes sense.</p>
<p>Maybe ads pointing to the facebook group would help boost your fans?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-4867</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys rule! My facebook account was originally set up to be used only for Klime, but you have to use your real name. I tried to change it to:
First: Klime 
Last: Clothing
.. but I got a message that FB reviews this info and will delete the account if the name is not a real name. It would be way easier to network having an account set up in that fashion. I just don&#039;t know how to go about doing it around FB.

I have been running ads, but they point directly to the website, not FB. I think I am going to create another ad that points to the FB site, and alternate them. The website is what it is, but FB will allow constant feedback and updates.

Also, no updates have been sent out b/c there are currently only 28 fans (which is bad!).  

I agree with the picture comment. Group shots good on my page, bad on company - I&#039;m going to fix that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys rule! My facebook account was originally set up to be used only for Klime, but you have to use your real name. I tried to change it to:<br />
First: Klime<br />
Last: Clothing<br />
.. but I got a message that FB reviews this info and will delete the account if the name is not a real name. It would be way easier to network having an account set up in that fashion. I just don&#8217;t know how to go about doing it around FB.</p>
<p>I have been running ads, but they point directly to the website, not FB. I think I am going to create another ad that points to the FB site, and alternate them. The website is what it is, but FB will allow constant feedback and updates.</p>
<p>Also, no updates have been sent out b/c there are currently only 28 fans (which is bad!).  </p>
<p>I agree with the picture comment. Group shots good on my page, bad on company &#8211; I&#8217;m going to fix that up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-4864</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh... I see, it looks like updates are sent out in a similar fashion as say, a mailing list news letter. I am still learning the witchy ways of facebook.

The other useful thing that I know Nick has been using is the targeted ads. I think he promotes the Klime group using paid facebook ads. I&#039;m sure that&#039;s good for getting new eyeballs pointed at Klime.

Cool, I&#039;ll be back in town on the 28th. I&#039;ll totally be down for either a climbing trip or a snowboarding trip. We better start praying for snow now though if you want the later.

I&#039;ll definitely make sure Nick checks out the blog post :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230; I see, it looks like updates are sent out in a similar fashion as say, a mailing list news letter. I am still learning the witchy ways of facebook.</p>
<p>The other useful thing that I know Nick has been using is the targeted ads. I think he promotes the Klime group using paid facebook ads. I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s good for getting new eyeballs pointed at Klime.</p>
<p>Cool, I&#8217;ll be back in town on the 28th. I&#8217;ll totally be down for either a climbing trip or a snowboarding trip. We better start praying for snow now though if you want the later.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll definitely make sure Nick checks out the blog post <img src='http://disjointthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://disjointthoughts.com/2008/12/07/klime-photo-shoot/comment-page-1/#comment-4863</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the only way people who are &quot;fans/members&quot; will see it is if we write an &quot;update&quot; not a &quot;note&quot;.  Then it is sent to everyone in a similar fashion and the same area that a friend request shows up.  From there you can choose to link to the page and see the update or ignore it, but it will always go through to their front page on login.

I&#039;ll be in town from the 25th to the 4th so we&#039;ll be planning a snowboarding/climbing trip no doubt.  Also, you should send this log back-n-forth of us to Nick to let me know we&#039;re &quot;good lookin&#039; out&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the only way people who are &#8220;fans/members&#8221; will see it is if we write an &#8220;update&#8221; not a &#8220;note&#8221;.  Then it is sent to everyone in a similar fashion and the same area that a friend request shows up.  From there you can choose to link to the page and see the update or ignore it, but it will always go through to their front page on login.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be in town from the 25th to the 4th so we&#8217;ll be planning a snowboarding/climbing trip no doubt.  Also, you should send this log back-n-forth of us to Nick to let me know we&#8217;re &#8220;good lookin&#8217; out&#8221;</p>
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